What if your most meaningful work happens after your job title disappears?

In this inspiring conversation, Chip Conley interviews longtime friend Seth Godin to explore the liminal space between career and retirement — a powerful period for reinvention, learning, and renewed purpose.

Whether you’re in your 40s, 50s, or simply rethinking your relationship with work, this is a masterclass in how to stay relevant, fulfilled, and creatively engaged.

If you’re navigating career change or searching for work that matters, this is worth your time.